Frequently Asked Questions
>> How could the light poles and taxi cab scene have
been staged in broad daylight?
There would have been two steps involved in staging the
light poles. The first is the removal of the poles. The second
is the planting of the poles in the proper location so as to make them
appear to have been knocked down by the plane.
Regarding the removal of the poles, there is no reason that this had to have been done in broad daylight as
opposed to the middle of the night. And, even if it was done during the
day, there is no
reason that anyone would have noticed if these poles had been removed
under the cover of normal road maintenance, particularly if they were each removed on separate occasions
over the days, weeks, or months prior to the event.
Regarding the planting of the poles, there is no reason to believe that this was done in broad daylight either.
On 9/11, four out of the five light poles were in fairly to highly inconspicuous locations.
Pole 2 was almost completely hidden. Poles 4 and 5 were concealed on embankments
on Pentagon property and behind guardrails . Pole 3 was in the
grass next to an exit ramp on Pentagon property.
All four of these poles (numbers 2 through 5) could have easily been placed there in advance in the middle
of the night on the eve of the event.
Please remember that the area in which these light poles were
photographed on the ground on 9/11 is the literal backyard of the suspect and one
of the most highly secured (government-controlled) areas in the nation
Moreover, the entire scene is right by the heliport, where the
President travels to and from quite often.
In fact, the President had departed from there the day before and was
scheduled to land back at the heliport on the afternoon of
Heliport firefighter Allan Wallace:
Our first helicopter flight was around 10 AM. But we were expecting
President George W. Bush to land in Marine One around 12 Noon, returning
from Jacksonville, Florida. (He had actually left from the Pentagon the
day before.) Needless to say, neither flight arrived at the Pentagon
that day because of the terrorist attacks.1
Sean Boger, an air traffic controller who was in the heliport tower on 9/11,
told the Center for Military History:
On September 10th, it was kind of busy because the President flew
out. He flew out that Monday, and whenever the President flies out,
it is always a dog and pony show, you know.
You have got the Secret Service guys coming around and the dogs
sniffing, and everything. So it was kind of like a big old deal.
And so on September 10th, you know it was really kind of busy. And
he was scheduled to come back on September 11th.
So we know it was going to be another dog and pony show, but we
didn't think it was going to happen that soon.2
This means that complicit officials had a perfect pretext ("securing
the area for the president") under which the stage could be set.
Even Pole 1, which Lloyde England claims speared the windshield of his
taxi (a physically impossible claim which is not corroborated by a single
other eyewitness or any photograph, and which is proven false by the
side approach evidence anyway), could have been pre-positioned in advance, hidden off to the side of the road or on the wide guardrail
median separating the carpool lane, waiting to be dragged out to its final
resting spot next to the cab for the photo ops immediately after the
explosion on 9/11 while everyone was watching the Pentagon burn.
In fact, the visible scratch on the road where the
pole was dragged is physical evidence that this is exactly what happened.
(Click the image to view full-size, high-res version in a new window)
Additionally, there is evidence that authorities had already blocked off
southbound traffic on Route 27 (where Lloyde's cab was photographed)
shortly after the explosion (and possibly even just before), giving themselves complete control
over the scene.
Jerri Davis was completely stopped in traffic talking on her cell phone in the northbound HOV lane of
Route 27 in front of the Pentagon when the plane flew by. She was just far enough north that
she did not see the plane, which was gone by the time she turned after hearing the huge explosion
to the right.
After getting out of her car and walking into the grass to observe the scene
for a few minutes, Jerri then got back in her car and began to make her
way out of there. Traffic was moving pretty slowly because they had
to snake through a number of stopped vehicles, so once Jerri reached the point just
beyond the median she made a U-Turn and headed back down Route 27
Jerri told us that as she got back down near the Pentagon she noticed a man up ahead who was
waving his hands and trying to flag her down to stop. She said there was
no way on Earth that she was going to stop, so she got off at the Columbia
Pike exit instead.
In fact, Steve Riskus was already heading south on Route 27 minutes
earlier when the alleged impact (flyover)
took place. He quickly got out his camera and
began snapping photos. He says that he did this "less than one
minutes [sic]" after the alleged impact.3 He was located before the
Columbia Pike exit at that time, and as you can see, just like Jerri
Davis, he promptly exited Route 27 there.
Here are his first three photos:
As you can see there was already a distinct lack of cars in the
southbound lanes, in stark contrast to the heavy traffic in the
In the following images, taken by photographer Jason Ingersoll within 17
minutes or less of the event, you can also see a lack of southbound
traffic. Meanwhile, Lloyde is seen surrounded by a
handful of men in suits. It is also apparent that cars on the other
side of the highway going northbound had their view of the scene
obstructed by the two sets of guardrails on the already-closed HOV lane.
(Clicking on an image will open a high-res version in a new window.)
This individual with the red tie, who looks to be the same individual that
was was photographed in the brown Jeep Cherokee moments earlier,
was a central figure in this scene. His access, noticeably calm
demeanor, and apparent
authority imply he is likely a federal agent.
Here is another image (taken after the fire had been largely extinguished) showing how the view of the scene from the
northbound lane was obstructed by the two sets of guardrails on the
already-closed HOV lane.
All in all the scene would have been quite easy to control, especially
considering that people would have been much more fixated on the burning
pole on hwy goes unnoticed for years" (CIT Forum)
the plane did not hit the light poles do you think that they were somehow
knocked down in real-time as the plane passed by? Maybe with explosives,
or by the vortex of the plane or a missile or something?"
(CitizenInvestigationTeam.com FAQ section)
Firefighter's Story" Written by Alan Wallace on Aug 5,
2002. Published by First Due News, the "official magazine
of the Ohio Association of Professional Fire Fighters" on OAPFF.com some time between Oct 2002 and April 2003.
Archived version of dead OAPFF.com link
CMH Interview with Sean Boger.
Nov 14, 2001. CMH Catalogue Number
3. High resolution copies of the full set of images that Riskus published
can be viewed in their original context here: <www.criticalthrash.com/terror/crashthumbnails.html>